Scheana Shay Has a ‘Trauma Response’ When Lisa Vanderpump Calls Her

Scheana Shay surprised Bravo fans when she revealed she hasn’t just had a falling out with Lisa Vanderpump — she developed a “trauma response” since Vanderpump Rules came to an end.

“I literally have a trauma response when she calls me,” Scheana, 40, said on the Friday, May 16, episode of her “Scheananigans” podcast. “It’s always something. It was [always,] like, what I did wrong or what could I do for her? The last time she called me, it was a question about Marciano [Brunette] and Demi [Engemann]. Nothing about me or anything like that.”

Scheana wasn’t surprised to get a call about Vanderpump Villa and The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives drama, but she was disappointed.

“She was just like, ‘I need you to tell me exactly what happened.’ And I’m like, ‘I don’t owe you anything,’” she noted. “But also, ‘If you’re thinking this about my friends, I’m going to tell you the truth because I don’t want my friends getting in trouble for something that’s not true.’”

Scheana’s guest, podcast host Gibson Johns, subsequently brought up comments Lisa, 64, made about how Vanderpump Rules, which is often billed as Lisa’s show, provided the cast with career success. Scheana said she doesn’t exactly see it that way.

“First of all, Bravo gave me this opportunity. The success of VPR is due mostly to a messy group of friends. Of course, Lisa’s name is attached to the show. I started the show with a scandal I was involved in. People were invested in watching the show for the six of us,” she continued. “No offense to Lisa, but I think very few viewers were tuning in to see Lisa’s life because she’s not sharing a bunch of her life on the show. It was about us. Because of the success, she’s been able to expand her empire.”

Scheana, who played a big part in the VPR and RHOBH crossover thanks to her past with then-Housewife Brandi Glanville’s ex-husband, Eddie Cibrian, admitted she doesn’t feel she owes Lisa “anything.”

“She’s my former employer and producer. She’s not my family and she doesn’t treat me like a friend,” Scheana added. “I just feel like that’s been made pretty clear over the last few years.”

Vanderpump Rules viewers have wondered where Scheana and Lisa stand since the show was overhauled ahead of season 12. Scheana was asked about her current relationship with Lisa in April on the “Two T’s With a Pod” podcast, and she admitted, “I don’t talk to her too often. She usually calls when she needs something.”

Scheana recalled her last interaction with Lisa being business-related. “That was recent when I talked to her,” she added. “She had a question about a friend of mine on another show of hers, and that was pretty much it.”

After Kristen Doute hinted that Scheana’s upcoming memoir contributed to the rift, Lisa was asked to weigh in on Watch What Happens Live With Andy Cohen.

“[She spills tea] about me? Oh, good lord,” Lisa said earlier this month. “Well, that is probably just to sell the book, because she doesn’t have anything else to say.”

Lisa continued: “I have heard she said something nasty that I only call her when I need something. True that. I have 600 people that work for me. I think the last time I needed her is when I invited her to my house for [my grandson] Teddy’s birthday. So that is the last time I called her.”

In response, Scheana confirmed that Lisa is brought up in her book.

“What I said to Kristen is there are things that I’ve never felt comfortable talking about that I open up about in the book. Because I’ve always been very loyal to Lisa — very much. I was her right hand for a long time,” she explained on Friday’s episode. “There were a lot of situations that I’ve been put in — phone calls that were made — and things that just kind of shaped a big part of my life that I do discuss in the book.”

Scheana acknowledged that Lisa might not be happy with everything written in My Good Side.

“It’s something that I never felt comfortable sharing. It’s honestly a huge reason why I wanted to wait until Vanderpump Rules was done to write a book,” she shared. “I feel that that relationship has been strained for years. A big thing was in 2020 when I suffered a miscarriage and everyone else was reaching out, I didn’t hear from her at all.”

Scheana continued: “I’m sure there’s going to be things in there she’s not too happy about. But it is my truth. It’s my story.”